There's now an interesting overhearable conversation nearby, the sort where people are talking in voices not particularly meant to demand attention, but loud enough that somebody else could join their conversation if they wanted. It looks to be a noble, a high-level fighter, and a cleric of Asmodeus; and if they aren't all walking into a tavern, they're at least standing near the drinks station.
Noble: ...sign that the damned wizards are taking over the whole damned country, I'm telling you. They go off and figure out how to make an expensive wizard thing more cheaply and suddenly they're the key to world conquest?
Fighter: Aye! If spellsilver had always cost a tenth of the old price, nobody would think anything of mining it so. If only warriors had always lazed about and made an attack every minute! We could pretend now to speed up to an attack per round, and we'd all be the center of attention.
Cleric: There's something to what you say. Not much, and not necessarily good, but something. I notice some concern myself that the Queen is handing out Intelligence headbands to the nobility -
Noble: Yes! Exactly! It'd be one thing if that were a free action, but you've got to take off your Splendour headband to put on an Intelligence headband, and we need those! I never thought I'd see the day when an eighth-circle sorceress started to go along with the wizards on Intelligence being everything! Who's to say that Intelligence is any more important than Splendour, in life? If Intelligence is everything then why doesn't Nefreti Clepati rule the world, hm? It's we nobles who run things all over Golarion, and that's because Splendour is just more useful than Intelligence to everybody in real life, .
Fighter: Aye! Who's even to say that an Intelligence headband is any more useful or important than a belt of Strength or Constitution?
Cleric: Me, for one. I'd say that. At least if we're talking about those who'd rule.
Fighter: There's many a king that wouldn't have attained their throne without a Belt of Physical Might.
Noble: Once you have the throne and can afford to hire bodyguards, Strength becomes not quite as important, after. If you can trust the bodyguards, that is, which is a matter of Splendour.
Fighter: Did I take a throne, I'd put a Splendour headband on myself, but I wouldn't take off my Strength belt after. Being strong changes you, there is a confidence that comes from being able to punch through iron and outlast a stone statue. If you cannot outfight your own bodyguards, it changes how you treat them and how they treat you. There is no mind without body, even petitioners must manifest one for themselves. I'm surprised and dismayed to find myself the only advocate here of the commonsense position that all six ability scores are equally important in life.
Cleric: It's easier to sound wise than to be wise, as the clerics say. There's a reason why wizards do say that Intelligence is most important in life, clerics that Wisdom is most important, sorcerers that Splendour is most important, and fighters argue that all six abilitystats are equally important.
Fighter: Namely, we're in a profession that actually uses more than one abilitystat, allowing us to appreciate that more than one such might have an equal place in life, and that the gods made all six to matter equally.
Noble: No, it's because 'Strength matters as much as Intelligence' is a fucking stupid stance for anyone except a fighter or a farmer, which can only be justified under cover of arguing an even stupider proposition which would imply that Dexterity matters as much as Splendour. You can get by on Strength 7 as a duchess, if you must, but try out Intelligence 7 and you'll be dead by evening. My objection to the Queen's plan is more that, once you're smart enough to not be one of the stupid people who never matter to anything - once you're smart enough to qualify for the inner circle of people who matter at all, as they know that among themselves - it doesn't help to be any smarter than that.
Fighter: Wouldn't it be amusing, though, if people put on Intelligence headbands, and the first thing they realized with all that wit would be that Intelligence doesn't matter any more than Dexterity after all? Ha! Ha, ha, ha! Wouldn't that be a pinprick in their pride! Oh, sometimes I do slay myself with my own wit.
Noble: If only. But, I believe the other person who matters at all, in this conversation, had something they wished to say, about how they were disturbed that the Queen was handing out Intelligence headbands and demanding they be used?
Cleric: Well, yes, it's that if the problem is nobles being stupid in the ordinary and colloquial sense of stupidity, I'd expect that was better fixed by enjoining them to put on Wisdom headbands, not Intelligence headbands. Nobles being idiots are usually more headstrong than truly uncomprehending of the correct way, I think? No decision that a noble faces is ever as complicated as even the most basic Spellcraft, after all, nor requires any mathematics more complicated than the arithmetic of tax records. What's needed is not the cleverness to grasp a complex remedy, but the perceptiveness to understand that some simple remedy is correct. I pray that this is only an ordinary matter of the manufacture of Wisdom headbands lagging, and not that the Queen has truly set such hard-to-understand priorities on the abilitystats needed for effective rulership.
Fighter: Did we ask the Queen's new fucktoy yonder, she'd no doubt say that Comeliness, the seventh abilitystat unrecognized by magic, is the most important thing in life, and that struggling nobles should make themselves more comely.
Cleric: And you, by your own lights, should agree with her that Comeliness is just as important as any other abilitystat?
There's now an interesting overhearable conversation nearby, the sort where people are talking in voices not particularly meant to demand attention, but loud enough that somebody else could join their conversation if they wanted. It looks to be a noble, a high-level fighter, and a cleric of Asmodeus; and if they aren't all walking into a tavern, they're at least standing near the drinks station.
Noble: ...sign that the damned wizards are taking over the whole damned country, I'm telling you. They go off and figure out how to make an expensive wizard thing more cheaply and suddenly they're the key to world conquest?
Fighter: Aye! If spellsilver had always cost a tenth of the old price, nobody would think anything of mining it so. If only warriors had always lazed about and made an attack every minute! We could pretend now to speed up to an attack per round, and we'd all be the center of attention.
Cleric: There's something to what you say. Not much, and not necessarily good, but something. I notice some concern myself that the Queen is handing out Intelligence headbands to the nobility -
Noble: Yes! Exactly! It'd be one thing if that were a free action, but you've got to take off your Splendour headband to put on an Intelligence headband, and we need those! I never thought I'd see the day when an eighth-circle sorceress started to go along with the wizards on Intelligence being everything! Who's to say that Intelligence is any more important than Splendour, in life? If Intelligence is everything then why doesn't Nefreti Clepati rule the world, hm? It's we nobles who run things all over Golarion, and that's because Splendour is just more useful than Intelligence to everybody in real life.
Fighter: Aye! Who's even to say that an Intelligence headband is any more useful or important than a belt of Strength or Constitution?
Cleric: Me, for one. I'd say that. At least if we're talking about those who'd rule.
Fighter: There's many a king that wouldn't have attained their throne without a Belt of Physical Might.
Noble: Once you have the throne and can afford to hire bodyguards, Strength becomes not quite as important, after. If you can trust the bodyguards, that is, which is a matter of Splendour.
Fighter: Did I take a throne, I'd put a Splendour headband on myself, but I wouldn't take off my Strength belt after. Being strong changes you, there is a confidence that comes from being able to punch through iron and outlast a stone statue. If you cannot outfight your own bodyguards, it changes how you treat them and how they treat you. There is no mind without body, even petitioners must manifest one for themselves. I'm surprised and dismayed to find myself the only advocate here of the commonsense position that all six ability scores are equally important in life.
Cleric: It's easier to sound wise than to be wise, as the clerics say. There's a reason why wizards do say that Intelligence is most important in life, clerics that Wisdom is most important, sorcerers that Splendour is most important, and fighters argue that all six abilitystats are equally important.
Fighter: Namely, we're in a profession that actually uses more than one abilitystat, allowing us to appreciate that more than one such might have an equal place in life, and that the gods made all six to matter equally.
Noble: No, it's because 'Strength matters as much as Intelligence' is a fucking stupid stance for anyone except a fighter or a farmer, which can only be justified under cover of arguing an even stupider proposition which would imply that Dexterity matters as much as Splendour. You can get by on Strength 7 as a duchess, if you must, but try out Intelligence 7 and you'll be dead by evening. My objection to the Queen's plan is more that, once you're smart enough to not be one of the stupid people who never matter to anything - once you're smart enough to qualify for the inner circle of people who matter at all, as they know that among themselves - it doesn't help to be any smarter than that.
Fighter: Wouldn't it be amusing, though, if people put on Intelligence headbands, and the first thing they realized with all that wit would be that Intelligence doesn't matter any more than Dexterity after all? Ha! Ha, ha, ha! Wouldn't that be a pinprick in their pride! Oh, sometimes I do slay myself with my own wit.
Noble: If only. But, I believe the other person who matters at all, in this conversation, had something they wished to say, about how they were disturbed that the Queen was handing out Intelligence headbands and demanding they be used?
Cleric: Well, yes, it's that if the problem is nobles being stupid in the ordinary and colloquial sense of stupidity, I'd expect that was better fixed by enjoining them to put on Wisdom headbands, not Intelligence headbands. Nobles being idiots are usually more headstrong than truly uncomprehending of the correct way, I think? No decision that a noble faces is ever as complicated as even the most basic Spellcraft, after all, nor requires any mathematics more complicated than the arithmetic of tax records. What's needed is not the cleverness to grasp a complex remedy, but the perceptiveness to understand that some simple remedy is correct. I pray that this is only an ordinary matter of the manufacture of Wisdom headbands lagging, and not that the Queen has truly set such hard-to-understand priorities on the abilitystats needed for effective rulership.
Fighter: Did we ask the Queen's new fucktoy yonder, she'd no doubt say that Comeliness, the seventh abilitystat unrecognized by magic, is the most important thing in life, and that struggling nobles should make themselves more comely.
Cleric: And you, by your own lights, should agree with her that Comeliness is just as important as any other abilitystat?
There's now an interesting overhearable conversation nearby, the sort where people are talking in voices not particularly meant to demand attention, but loud enough that somebody else could join their conversation if they wanted. It looks to be a noble, a high-level fighter, and a cleric of Asmodeus; and if they aren't all walking into a tavern, they're at least standing near the drinks station.
Noble: ...sign that the damned wizards are taking over the whole damned country, I'm telling you. They go off and figure out how to make an expensive wizard thing more cheaply and suddenly they're the key to world conquest?
Fighter: Aye! If spellsilver had always cost a tenth of the old price, nobody would think anything of mining it so. If only warriors had always lazed about and made an attack every minute! We could pretend now to speed up to an attack per round, and we'd all be the center of attention.
Cleric: There's something to what you say. Not much, and not necessarily good, but something. I notice some concern myself that the Queen is handing out Intelligence headbands to the nobility -
Noble: Yes! Exactly! It'd be one thing if that were a free action, but you've got to take off your Splendour headband to put on an Intelligence headband, and we need those! I never thought I'd see the day when an eighth-circle sorceress started to go along with the wizards on Intelligence being everything! Who's to say that Intelligence is any more important than Splendour, in life? If Intelligence is everything then why doesn't Nefreti Clepati rule the world, hm? It's we nobles who run things all over Golarion, and that's because Splendour is just more useful than Intelligence to everybody in real life.
Fighter: Aye! Who's even to say that an Intelligence headband is any more useful or important than a belt of Strength or Constitution?
Cleric: Me, for one. I'd say that. At least if we're talking about those who'd rule.
Fighter: There's many a king that wouldn't have attained their throne without a Belt of Physical Might.
Noble: Once you have the throne and can afford to hire bodyguards, Strength becomes not quite as important, after. If you can trust the bodyguards, that is, which is a matter of Splendour.
Fighter: Did I take a throne, I'd put a Splendour headband on myself, but I wouldn't take off my Strength belt after. Being strong changes you, there is a confidence that comes from being able to punch through iron and outlast a stone statue. If you cannot outfight your own bodyguards, it changes how you treat them and how they treat you. There is no mind without body, even petitioners must manifest one for themselves. I'm surprised and dismayed to find myself the only advocate here of the commonsense position that all six abilitystats are equally important in life.
Cleric: It's easier to sound wise than to be wise, as the clerics say. There's a reason why wizards do say that Intelligence is most important in life, clerics that Wisdom is most important, sorcerers that Splendour is most important, and fighters argue that all six abilitystats are equally important.
Fighter: Namely, we're in a profession that actually uses more than one abilitystat, allowing us to appreciate that more than one such might have an equal place in life, and that the gods made all six to matter equally.
Noble: No, it's because 'Strength matters as much as Intelligence' is a fucking stupid stance for anyone except a fighter or a farmer, which can only be justified under cover of arguing an even stupider proposition which would imply that Dexterity matters as much as Splendour. You can get by on Strength 7 as a duchess, if you must, but try out Intelligence 7 and you'll be dead by evening. My objection to the Queen's plan is more that, once you're smart enough to not be one of the stupid people who never matter to anything - once you're smart enough to qualify for the inner circle of people who matter at all, as they know that among themselves - it doesn't help to be any smarter than that.
Fighter: Wouldn't it be amusing, though, if people put on Intelligence headbands, and the first thing they realized with all that wit would be that Intelligence doesn't matter any more than Dexterity after all? Ha! Ha, ha, ha! Wouldn't that be a pinprick in their pride! Oh, sometimes I do slay myself with my own wit.
Noble: If only. But, I believe the other person who matters at all, in this conversation, had something they wished to say, about how they were disturbed that the Queen was handing out Intelligence headbands and demanding they be used?
Cleric: Well, yes, it's that if the problem is nobles being stupid in the ordinary and colloquial sense of stupidity, I'd expect that was better fixed by enjoining them to put on Wisdom headbands, not Intelligence headbands. Nobles being idiots are usually more headstrong than truly uncomprehending of the correct way, I think? No decision that a noble faces is ever as complicated as even the most basic Spellcraft, after all, nor requires any mathematics more complicated than the arithmetic of tax records. What's needed is not the cleverness to grasp a complex remedy, but the perceptiveness to understand that some simple remedy is correct. I pray that this is only an ordinary matter of the manufacture of Wisdom headbands lagging, and not that the Queen has truly set such hard-to-understand priorities on the abilitystats needed for effective rulership.
Fighter: Did we ask the Queen's new fucktoy yonder, she'd no doubt say that Comeliness, the seventh abilitystat unrecognized by magic, is the most important thing in life, and that struggling nobles should make themselves more comely.
Cleric: And you, by your own lights, should agree with her that Comeliness is just as important as any other abilitystat?
There's now an interesting overhearable conversation nearby, the sort where people are talking in voices not particularly meant to demand attention, but loud enough that somebody else could join their conversation if they wanted. It looks to be a noble, a high-level fighter, and a cleric of Asmodeus; and if they aren't all walking into a tavern, they're at least standing near the drinks station.
Noble: ...sign that the damned wizards are taking over the whole damned country, I'm telling you. They go off and figure out how to make an expensive wizard thing more cheaply and suddenly they're the key to world conquest?
Fighter: Aye! If spellsilver had always cost a tenth of the old price, nobody would think anything of mining it so. If only warriors had always lazed about and made an attack every minute! We could pretend now to speed up to an attack per round, and we'd all be the center of attention.
Cleric: There's something to what you say. Not much, and not necessarily good, but something. I notice some concern myself that the Queen is handing out Intelligence headbands to the nobility -
Noble: Yes! Exactly! It'd be one thing if that were a free action, but you've got to take off your Splendour headband to put on an Intelligence headband, and we need those! I never thought I'd see the day when an eighth-circle sorceress started to go along with the wizards on Intelligence being everything! Who's to say that Intelligence is any more important than Splendour, in life? If Intelligence is everything then why doesn't Nefreti Clepati rule the world, hm? It's we nobles who run things all over Golarion, and that's because Splendour is just more useful than Intelligence to everybody in real life.
Fighter: Aye! Who's even to say that an Intelligence headband is any more useful or important than a belt of Strength or Constitution?
Cleric: Me, for one. I'd say that. At least if we're talking about those who'd rule.
Fighter: There's many a king that wouldn't have attained their throne without a Belt of Physical Might.
Noble: Once you have the throne and can afford to hire bodyguards, Strength becomes not quite as important, after. If you can trust the bodyguards, that is, which is a matter of Splendour.
Fighter: Did I take a throne, I'd put a Splendour headband on myself, but I wouldn't take off my Strength belt after. Being strong changes you, there is a confidence that comes from being able to punch through iron and outlast a stone statue. If you cannot outfight your own bodyguards, it changes how you treat them and how they treat you. There is no mind without body, even petitioners must manifest one for themselves. I'm surprised and dismayed to find myself the only advocate here of the commonsense position that all six abilitystats are equally important in life.
Cleric: It's easier to sound wise than to be wise, as the clerics say. There's a reason why wizards do say that Intelligence is most important in life, clerics that Wisdom is most important, sorcerers that Splendour is most important, and fighters argue that all six abilitystats are equally important.
Fighter: Namely, we're in a profession that actually uses more than one abilitystat, allowing us to appreciate that more than one such might have an equal place in life, and that the gods made all six to matter equally.
Noble: No, it's because 'Strength matters as much as Intelligence' is a fucking stupid stance for anyone except a fighter or a farmer, which can only be justified under cover of arguing an even stupider proposition which would imply that Dexterity matters as much as Splendour. You can get by on Strength 7 as a duchess, if you must, but try out Intelligence 7 and you'll be dead by evening. My objection to the Queen's plan is more that, once you're smart enough to not be one of the stupid people who never matter to anything - once you're smart enough to qualify for the inner circle of people who matter at all, as they know that among themselves - it doesn't help to be any smarter than that.
Fighter: Wouldn't it be amusing, though, if people put on Intelligence headbands, and the first thing they realized with all that wit would be that Intelligence doesn't matter any more than Dexterity after all? Ha! Ha, ha, ha! Wouldn't that be a pinprick in their pride! Oh, sometimes I do slay myself with my own wit.
Noble: If only. But, I believe the other person who matters at all, in this conversation, had something they wished to say, about how they were disturbed that the Queen was handing out Intelligence headbands and demanding they be used?
Cleric: Well, yes, it's that if the problem is nobles being stupid in the ordinary and colloquial sense of stupidity, I'd expect that was better fixed by enjoining them to put on Wisdom headbands, not Intelligence headbands. Nobles being idiots are usually more headstrong than truly uncomprehending of the correct way, I think? No decision that a noble faces is ever as complicated as even the most basic Spellcraft, after all, nor requires any mathematics more complicated than the arithmetic of tax records. What's needed is not the cleverness to grasp a complex remedy, but the perceptiveness to understand that some simple remedy is correct. I pray that this is only an ordinary matter of the manufacture of Wisdom headbands lagging, and not that the Queen has truly set such hard-to-understand priorities on the abilitystats needed for effective rulership.
Fighter: Did we ask the Queen's new fucktoy yonder, she'd no doubt say that Comeliness, the seventh abilitystat unrecognized by magic, is the most important thing in life, and that struggling nobles should make themselves more comely.
Cleric: And you, by your own lights, should agree at least that Comeliness is just as important as any other abilitystat?
There's now an interesting overhearable conversation nearby, the sort where people are talking in voices not particularly meant to demand attention, but loud enough that somebody else could join their conversation if they wanted. It looks to be a noble, a high-level fighter, and a cleric of Asmodeus; and if they aren't all walking into a tavern, they're at least standing near the drinks station.
Noble: ...sign that the damned wizards are taking over the whole damned country, I'm telling you. They go off and figure out how to make an expensive wizard thing more cheaply and suddenly they're the key to world conquest?
Fighter: Aye! If spellsilver had always cost a tenth of the old price, nobody would think anything of mining it so. If only warriors had always lazed about and made an attack every minute! We could pretend now to speed up to an attack per round, and we'd all be the center of attention.
Cleric: There's something to what you say. Not much, and not necessarily good, but something. I notice some concern myself that the Queen is handing out Intelligence headbands to the nobility -
Noble: Yes! Exactly! It'd be one thing if that were a free action, but you've got to take off your Splendour headband to put on an Intelligence headband, and we need those! I never thought I'd see the day when an eighth-circle sorceress started to go along with the wizards on Intelligence being everything! Who's to say that Intelligence is any more important than Splendour, in life? If Intelligence is everything then why doesn't Nefreti Clepati rule the world, hm? It's we nobles who run things all over Golarion, and that's because Splendour is just more useful than Intelligence to everyone who isn't a wizard, everyone living in real life.
Fighter: Aye! Who's even to say that an Intelligence headband is any more useful or important than a belt of Strength or Constitution?
Cleric: Me, for one. I'd say that. At least if we're talking about those who'd rule.
Fighter: There's many a king that wouldn't have attained their throne without a Belt of Physical Might.
Noble: Once you have the throne and can afford to hire bodyguards, Strength becomes not quite as important, after. If you can trust the bodyguards, that is, which is a matter of Splendour.
Fighter: Did I take a throne, I'd put a Splendour headband on myself, but I wouldn't take off my Strength belt after. Being strong changes you, there is a confidence that comes from being able to punch through iron and outlast a stone statue. If you cannot outfight your own bodyguards, it changes how you treat them and how they treat you. There is no mind without body, even petitioners must manifest one for themselves. I'm surprised and dismayed to find myself the only advocate here of the commonsense position that all six abilitystats are equally important in life.
Cleric: It's easier to sound wise than to be wise, as the clerics say. There's a reason why wizards do say that Intelligence is most important in life, clerics that Wisdom is most important, sorcerers that Splendour is most important, and fighters argue that all six abilitystats are equally important.
Fighter: Namely, we're in a profession that actually uses more than one abilitystat, allowing us to appreciate that more than one such might have an equal place in life, and that the gods made all six to matter equally.
Noble: No, it's because 'Strength matters as much as Intelligence' is a fucking stupid stance for anyone except a fighter or a farmer, which can only be justified under cover of arguing an even stupider proposition which would imply that Dexterity matters as much as Splendour. You can get by on Strength 7 as a duchess, if you must, but try out Intelligence 7 and you'll be dead by evening. My objection to the Queen's plan is more that, once you're smart enough to not be one of the stupid people who never matter to anything - once you're smart enough to qualify for the inner circle of people who matter at all, as they know that among themselves - it doesn't help to be any smarter than that.
Fighter: Wouldn't it be amusing, though, if people put on Intelligence headbands, and the first thing they realized with all that wit would be that Intelligence doesn't matter any more than Dexterity after all? Ha! Ha, ha, ha! Wouldn't that be a pinprick in their pride! Oh, sometimes I do slay myself with my own wit.
Noble: If only. But, I believe the other person who matters at all, in this conversation, had something they wished to say, about how they were disturbed that the Queen was handing out Intelligence headbands and demanding they be used?
Cleric: Well, yes, it's that if the problem is nobles being stupid in the ordinary and colloquial sense of stupidity, I'd expect that was better fixed by enjoining them to put on Wisdom headbands, not Intelligence headbands. Nobles being idiots are usually more headstrong than truly uncomprehending of the correct way, I think? No decision that a noble faces is ever as complicated as even the most basic Spellcraft, after all, nor requires any mathematics more complicated than the arithmetic of tax records. What's needed is not the cleverness to grasp a complex remedy, but the perceptiveness to understand that some simple remedy is correct. I pray that this is only an ordinary matter of the manufacture of Wisdom headbands lagging, and not that the Queen has truly set such hard-to-understand priorities on the abilitystats needed for effective rulership.
Fighter: Did we ask the Queen's new fucktoy yonder, she'd no doubt say that Comeliness, the seventh abilitystat unrecognized by magic, is the most important thing in life, and that struggling nobles should make themselves more comely.
Cleric: And you, by your own lights, should agree at least that Comeliness is just as important as any other abilitystat?
There's now an interesting overhearable conversation nearby, the sort where people are talking in voices not particularly meant to demand attention, but loud enough that somebody else could join their conversation if they wanted. It looks to be a noble, a high-level fighter, and a cleric of Asmodeus; and if they aren't all walking into a tavern, they're at least standing near the drinks station.
Noble: ...sign that the damned wizards are taking over the whole damned country, I'm telling you. They go off and figure out how to make an expensive wizard thing more cheaply and suddenly they're the key to world conquest?
Fighter: Aye! If spellsilver had always cost a tenth of the old price, nobody would think anything of mining it so. If only warriors had always lazed about and made an attack every minute! We could pretend now to speed up to an attack per round, and we'd all be the center of attention.
Cleric: There's something to what you say. Not much, and not necessarily good, but something. I notice some concern myself that the Queen is handing out Intelligence headbands to the nobility -
Noble: Yes! Exactly! It'd be one thing if that were a free action, but you've got to take off your Splendour headband to put on an Intelligence headband, and we need those! I never thought I'd see the day when an eighth-circle sorceress started to go along with the wizards on Intelligence being everything! Who's to say that Intelligence is any more important than Splendour, in life? If Intelligence is everything then why doesn't Nefreti Clepati rule the world, hm? It's we nobles who run things all over Golarion, and that's because Splendour is just more useful than Intelligence to everyone who isn't a wizard, everyone living in real life.
Fighter: Aye! Who's even to say that an Intelligence headband is any more useful or important than a belt of Strength or Constitution?
Cleric: Me, for one. I'd say that. At least if we're talking about those who'd rule.
Fighter: There's many a king that wouldn't have attained their throne without a Belt of Physical Might.
Noble: Once you have the throne and can afford to hire bodyguards, Strength becomes not quite as important, after. If you can trust the bodyguards, that is, which is a matter of Splendour.
Fighter: Did I take a throne, I'd put a Splendour headband on myself, but I wouldn't take off my Strength belt after. Being strong changes you, there is a confidence that comes from being able to punch through iron and outlast a stone statue. If you cannot outfight your own bodyguards, it changes how you treat them and how they treat you. There is no mind without body, even petitioners must manifest one for themselves. I'm surprised and dismayed to find myself the only advocate here of the commonsense position that all six abilitystats are equally important in life.
Cleric: It's easier to sound wise than to be wise, as the clerics say. There's a reason why wizards do say that Intelligence is most important in life, clerics that Wisdom is most important, sorcerers that Splendour is most important, and fighters argue that all six abilitystats are equally important.
Fighter: Namely, we're in a profession that actually uses more than one abilitystat, allowing us to appreciate that more than one such might have an equal place in life, and that the gods made all six to matter equally.
Noble: No, it's because 'Strength matters as much as Intelligence' is a fucking stupid stance for anyone except a fighter or a farmer, which can only be justified under cover of arguing an even stupider proposition which would imply that Dexterity matters as much as Splendour. You can get by on Strength 7 as a duchess, if you must, but try out Intelligence 7 and you'll be dead by evening. My objection to the Queen's plan is more that, once you're smart enough to not be one of the stupid people who never matter to anything - once you're smart enough to qualify for the inner circle of people who matter at all, as they know that among themselves - it doesn't help to be any smarter than that.
Fighter: Wouldn't it be amusing, though, if people put on Intelligence headbands, and the first thing they realized with all that wit would be that Intelligence doesn't matter any more than Dexterity after all? Ha! Ha, ha, ha! Wouldn't that be a daggerthrust through their pride! Oh, sometimes I do slay myself with my own wit.
Noble: If only. But, I believe the other person who matters at all, in this conversation, had something they wished to say, about how they were disturbed that the Queen was handing out Intelligence headbands and demanding they be used?
Cleric: Well, yes, it's that if the problem is nobles being stupid in the ordinary and colloquial sense of stupidity, I'd expect that was better fixed by enjoining them to put on Wisdom headbands, not Intelligence headbands. Nobles being idiots are usually more headstrong than truly uncomprehending of the correct way, I think? No decision that a noble faces is ever as complicated as even the most basic Spellcraft, after all, nor requires any mathematics more complicated than the arithmetic of tax records. What's needed is not the cleverness to grasp a complex remedy, but the perceptiveness to understand that some simple remedy is correct. I pray that this is only an ordinary matter of the manufacture of Wisdom headbands lagging, and not that the Queen has truly set such hard-to-understand priorities on the abilitystats needed for effective rulership.
Fighter: Did we ask the Queen's new fucktoy yonder, she'd no doubt say that Comeliness, the seventh abilitystat unrecognized by magic, is the most important thing in life, and that struggling nobles should make themselves more comely.
Cleric: And you, by your own lights, should agree at least that Comeliness is just as important as any other abilitystat?
There's now an interesting overhearable conversation nearby, the sort where people are talking in voices not particularly meant to demand attention, but loud enough that somebody else could join their conversation if they wanted. It looks to be a noble, a high-level fighter, and a cleric of Asmodeus; and if they aren't all walking into a tavern, they're at least standing near the drinks station.
Noble: ...sign that the accursed wizards are taking over the whole fucking country, I'm telling you. They go off and figure out how to make an expensive wizard thing more cheaply and suddenly they're the key to world conquest?
Fighter: Aye! If spellsilver had always cost a tenth of the old price, nobody would think anything of mining it so. If only warriors had always lazed about and made an attack every minute! We could pretend now to speed up to an attack per round, and we'd all be the center of attention.
Cleric: There's something to what you say. Not much, and not necessarily good, but something. I notice some concern myself that the Queen is handing out Intelligence headbands to the nobility -
Noble: Yes! Exactly! It'd be one thing if that were a free action, but you've got to take off your Splendour headband to put on an Intelligence headband, and we need those! I never thought I'd see the day when an eighth-circle sorceress started to go along with the wizards on Intelligence being everything! Who's to say that Intelligence is any more important than Splendour, in life? If Intelligence is everything then why doesn't Nefreti Clepati rule the world, hm? It's we nobles who run things all over Golarion, and that's because Splendour is just more useful than Intelligence to everyone who isn't a wizard, everyone living in real life.
Fighter: Aye! Who's even to say that an Intelligence headband is any more useful or important than a belt of Strength or Constitution?
Cleric: Me, for one. I'd say that. At least if we're talking about those who'd rule.
Fighter: There's many a king that wouldn't have attained their throne without a Belt of Physical Might.
Noble: Once you have the throne and can afford to hire bodyguards, Strength becomes not quite as important, after. If you can trust the bodyguards, that is, which is a matter of Splendour.
Fighter: Did I take a throne, I'd put a Splendour headband on myself, but I wouldn't take off my Strength belt after. Being strong changes you, there is a confidence that comes from being able to punch through iron and outlast a stone statue. If you cannot outfight your own bodyguards, it changes how you treat them and how they treat you. There is no mind without body, even petitioners must manifest one for themselves. I'm surprised and dismayed to find myself the only advocate here of the commonsense position that all six abilitystats are equally important in life.
Cleric: It's easier to sound wise than to be wise, as the clerics say. There's a reason why wizards do say that Intelligence is most important in life, clerics that Wisdom is most important, sorcerers that Splendour is most important, and fighters argue that all six abilitystats are equally important.
Fighter: Namely, we're in a profession that actually uses more than one abilitystat, allowing us to appreciate that more than one such might have an equal place in life, and that the gods made all six to matter equally.
Noble: No, it's because 'Strength matters as much as Intelligence' is a fucking stupid stance for anyone except a fighter or a farmer, which can only be justified under cover of arguing an even stupider proposition which would imply that Dexterity matters as much as Splendour. You can get by on Strength 7 as a duchess, if you must, but try out Intelligence 7 and you'll be dead by evening. My objection to the Queen's plan is more that, once you're smart enough to not be one of the stupid people who never matter to anything - once you're smart enough to qualify for the inner circle of people who matter at all, as they know that among themselves - it doesn't help to be any smarter than that.
Fighter: Wouldn't it be amusing, though, if people put on Intelligence headbands, and the first thing they realized with all that wit would be that Intelligence doesn't matter any more than Dexterity after all? Ha! Ha, ha, ha! Wouldn't that be a daggerthrust through their pride! Oh, sometimes I do slay myself with my own wit.
Noble: If only. But, I believe the other person who matters at all, in this conversation, had something they wished to say, about how they were disturbed that the Queen was handing out Intelligence headbands and demanding they be used?
Cleric: Well, yes, it's that if the problem is nobles being stupid in the ordinary and colloquial sense of stupidity, I'd expect that was better fixed by enjoining them to put on Wisdom headbands, not Intelligence headbands. Nobles being idiots are usually more headstrong than truly uncomprehending of the correct way, I think? No decision that a noble faces is ever as complicated as even the most basic Spellcraft, after all, nor requires any mathematics more complicated than the arithmetic of tax records. What's needed is not the cleverness to grasp a complex remedy, but the perceptiveness to understand that some simple remedy is correct. I pray that this is only an ordinary matter of the manufacture of Wisdom headbands lagging, and not that the Queen has truly set such hard-to-understand priorities on the abilitystats needed for effective rulership.
Fighter: Did we ask the Queen's new fucktoy yonder, she'd no doubt say that Comeliness, the seventh abilitystat unrecognized by magic, is the most important thing in life, and that struggling nobles should make themselves more comely.
Cleric: And you, by your own lights, should agree at least that Comeliness is just as important as any other abilitystat?
