"The address I originally used to call up Abadar implies that he's the god of - a specific, obvious, overdetermined thing if you know the math of that thing, the god of agents voluntarily coordinating to move to multi-agent-optimal equilibria, and fairly dividing the gains as a result.  Abadar is the god of doing that because it's in your utilityfunction, your values, not because it's useful, playing honorably even with trade partners who can't enforce that by being able to predict you and refusing to cooperate if they predict you'll defect."

"What's going on in Osirion with their treatment of women is unambiguously not that.  It may be keeping both men and women out of Hell or the Maelstrom, though I don't really understand why, but Abadar's not the god of keeping people out of Hell, Iomedae is."

"What Osirion is doing may be, I don't know personally, but it could be, actually the right thing they need to do in that situation, to keep people out of Hell or the Maelstrom.  But to the extent you understand Abadar's math it's unambiguously not Abadar's thing.  The women aren't receiving a fair share of the gains they're producing and the economy isn't being run on a basis where it - starts from agents doing their own best acts as individuals, not temporally, but as a baseline for negotiations, and then they decide to coordinate together to move to a better place than that and split the gains fairly."

"If Osirian priests already know that, or if learning that won't break their connection to Abadar, then this can be a short conversation."

Which implies, though not perfectly, that Security isn't listening to this conversation.  Good general info to have.

"The address I originally used to call up Abadar implies that he's the god of - a specific, obvious, overdetermined thing if you know the math of that thing, the god of agents voluntarily coordinating to move to multi-agent-optimal equilibria, and fairly dividing the gains as a result.  Abadar is the god of doing that because it's in your utilityfunction, your values, not because it's useful, playing honorably even with trade partners who can't enforce that by being able to predict you and refusing to cooperate if they predict you'll defect."

"What's going on in Osirion with their treatment of women is unambiguously not that.  It may be keeping both men and women out of Hell or the Maelstrom, though I don't really understand why, but Abadar's not the god of keeping people out of Hell, Iomedae is."

"What Osirion is doing may be, I don't know personally, but it could be, actually the right thing they need to do in that situation, to keep people out of Hell or the Maelstrom.  But to the extent you understand Abadar's math it's unambiguously not Abadar's thing.  The women aren't receiving a fair share of the gains they're producing and the economy isn't being run on a basis where it - starts from agents doing their own best acts as individuals, not temporally, but as a baseline for negotiations, and then they decide to coordinate together to move to a better place than that and split the gains fairly."

"If Osirian priests already know that, or if learning that won't break their connection to Abadar, then this can be a short conversation."

Which implies, though not perfectly, that Security isn't listening to this conversation.  Good general info to have.

"The address I originally used to call up Abadar implies that he's the god of - a specific, obvious, overdetermined thing if you know the math of that thing, the god of agents voluntarily coordinating to move to multi-agent-optimal equilibria, and fairly dividing the gains that result.  Abadar is the god of doing that because it's in your utilityfunction, your values, not because it's useful.  The god of playing honorably, even with trade partners who can't enforce that by being able to predict you and refusing to cooperate if they predict you'll defect."

"What's going on in Osirion with their treatment of women is unambiguously not that.  It may be keeping both men and women out of Hell or the Maelstrom, though I don't really understand why, but Abadar's not the god of keeping people out of Hell, Iomedae is."

"What Osirion is doing may be, I don't know personally, but it could be, actually the right thing they need to do in that situation, to keep people out of Hell or the Maelstrom.  But to the extent you understand Abadar's math it's unambiguously not Abadar's thing.  The women aren't receiving a fair share of the gains they're producing and the economy isn't being run on a basis where it - starts from agents doing their own best acts as individuals, not temporally, but as a baseline for negotiations, and then they decide to coordinate together to move to a better place than that and split the gains fairly."

"If Osirian priests already know that, or if learning that won't break their connection to Abadar, then this can be a short conversation."

Which implies, though not perfectly, that Security isn't listening to this conversation.  Good general info to have.

"The address I originally used to call up Abadar implies that he's the god of - a specific, obvious, overdetermined thing if you know the math of that thing, the god of agents voluntarily coordinating to move to multi-agent-optimal equilibria, and fairly dividing the gains that result.  Abadar is the god of doing that because it's in your utilityfunction, your values, not because it's useful.  The god of playing honorably, even with trade partners who can't enforce that by being able to predict you and refusing to cooperate if they predict you'll defect."

"What's going on in Osirion with their treatment of women is unambiguously not that.  It may be keeping both men and women out of Hell or the Maelstrom, though I don't really understand why, but Abadar's not the god of keeping people out of Hell, Iomedae is."

"What Osirion is doing may be, I don't know personally, but it could be, actually the right thing they need to do in that situation, to keep people out of Hell or the Maelstrom.  But to the extent you understand Abadar's math it's unambiguously not Abadar's thing.  The women aren't receiving a fair share of the gains they're producing and the economy isn't being run on a basis where it - starts from agents doing their own best acts as individuals- not starts temporally, starts as a baseline for negotiations - and then they decide to coordinate together to move to a better place than that and split the gains fairly."

"If Osirian priests already know that, or if learning that won't break their connection to Abadar, then this can be a short conversation."