"Saying it doesn't make it a saying. And declaring that you're honest with yourself doesn't make you so. I could keep going in this vein; you have a habit of declaring things and then pretending they're true. But if they are, then I suppose all the valuable insights will come out of your team, and your methods adopted more wisely; and if, as I suspect, you're deluding yourself and blowing hot air and trying to run an organization in such a disorganized fashion it wouldn't work even among ilani, well, then it'll be good someone tried doing something different from that."

"Saying it doesn't make it a saying. And declaring that you're honest with yourself doesn't make you so. I could keep going in this vein; you have a habit of declaring things and then pretending they're true. But if they are, then I suppose all the valuable insights will come out of your team, and your methods adopted more widely; and if, as I suspect, you're deluding yourself and blowing hot air and trying to run an organization in such a disorganized fashion it wouldn't work even among ilani, well, then it'll be good someone tried doing something different from that."