"I'd call that an unfair representation. Matters are more politically complicated than they represented to you. Osirion is not Absalom, the people there are extremely skeptical of the equilibrium as it holds in Absalom or say Cheliax - if I've correctly identified your representative as hailing from there - with high abortion, high infanticide, high infidelity, legal divorce, and yes, women's rights. Most Osirani are, as a cultural matter, deeply skeptical that you can just take the women's rights and legal divorce part, and not get the rest of the Avistani equilibrium. They hold - validly, I would say - that mortal life only lasts a few decades, and to the extent they have worries about the inherent badness of oppressing women, they think that outweighed by the benefit of making sure that people end up in Axis rather than in the Maelstrom, which is not a place you can with any reliability leave if you did not wish to go there."
"The reign of Abadar is not so old, and the current administration has been slowly shifting in a direction I think Chelish sensibilities would approve as a direction, in this regard. Before Abadar united Himself with the Pharaoh, property could only be held by married, landowning men; to this has now been added young married men with incomes but no land, and spellcasting women have been made eligible for that status as well. It is a great change to Osirion, and now they will want to wait and see what comes of it."
"Fairness does impel me to say, that did you ask this question of a priest of Abadar born and raised in Osirion and perhaps my manager in the Church, they might say less that they were trying to move in a Chelish-approved direction, and more that they are striving to build the institutions Abadar asks of them, institutions whose participants end up in Axis, whether that was best done through women having more rights or less. Yet that has involved slow moves in a Chelish direction, in that regard, and not away from it."
"I'd call that an unfair representation. Matters are more politically complicated than they represented to you. Osirion is not Absalom, the people there are extremely skeptical of the equilibrium as it holds in Absalom or say Cheliax - if I've correctly identified your representative as hailing from there - with high abortion, high infanticide, high infidelity, legal divorce, and yes, women's rights. Most Osirani are, as a cultural matter, deeply skeptical that you can just take the women's rights and legal divorce part, and not get the rest of the Avistani equilibrium. They hold - validly, I would say - that mortal life only lasts a few decades, and to the extent they have worries about the inherent badness of oppressing women, they think that outweighed by the benefit of making sure that people end up in Axis rather than in the Maelstrom, which is not a place you can with any reliability leave if you did not wish to go there."
"The reign of Abadar is not so old, and the current administration has been slowly shifting in a direction I think Chelish sensibilities would approve as a direction, in this regard. Before Abadar united Himself with the Pharaoh, property could only be held by married, landowning men; to this has now been added young married men with incomes but no land, and spellcasting women have been made eligible for that status as well. It is a great change to Osirion, and now they will want to wait and see what comes of it."
"Fairness does impel me to say, that did you ask this question of a priest of Abadar born and raised in Osirion, they might say less that they were trying to move in a Chelish-approved direction, and more that they are striving to build the institutions Abadar asks of them, institutions whose participants end up in Axis, whether that was best done through women having more rights or less. Yet that has involved slow moves in a Chelish direction, in that regard, and not away from it."
"I'd call that an unfair representation. Matters are more politically complicated than they represented to you. Osirion is not Absalom, the people there are extremely skeptical of the equilibrium as it holds in Absalom or say Cheliax - if I've correctly identified your representative as hailing from there - with high abortion, high infanticide, high infidelity, legal divorce, and yes, women's rights. Most Osirani are, as a cultural matter, deeply skeptical that you can just take the women's rights and legal divorce part, and not get the rest of the Avistani equilibrium. They hold - validly, I would say - that mortal life only lasts a few decades, and to the extent they have worries about the inherent badness of oppressing women, they think that outweighed by the benefit of making sure that people end up in Axis rather than in the Maelstrom, which is not a place you can with any reliability leave if you did not wish to go there."
"The reign of Abadar is not so old, and the current administration has been slowly shifting in a direction I think Chelish sensibilities would approve as a direction, in this regard. Before Abadar united Himself with the Pharaoh, property could only be held by married, landowning men; to this has now been added young married men with incomes but no land, and spellcasting women have been made eligible for that status as well. It is a great change to Osirion, and now they will want to wait and see what comes of it."
"Fairness does impel me to say, that did you ask this question of a priest of Abadar born and raised in Osirion, they might say less that they were trying to move in a Chelish-approved direction, and more that they are striving to build the institutions Abadar asks of them, institutions whose participants end up in Axis, whether that was best done through women having more rights or less. But that's involved slow moves in a Chelish direction, in that regard, not away from it."
"I'd call that an unfair representation. Matters are more politically complicated than they represented to you. Osirion is not Absalom, the people there are extremely skeptical of the equilibrium as it holds in Absalom or say Cheliax - if I've correctly identified your representative as hailing from there - with high abortion, high infanticide, high infidelity, legal divorce, and yes, women's rights. Most Osirani are, as a cultural matter, deeply skeptical that you can just take the women's rights and legal divorce part, and not get the rest of the Avistani equilibrium. Mortal life only lasts a few decades. To the extent they've worries about the inherent badness of oppressing women, they think that's outweighed by the benefit of making sure that people end up in Axis rather than the Maelstrom - which is not a plane you can with any reliability leave if you did not wish to arrive."
"The reign of Abadar is not so old, and the current administration has been slowly shifting in a direction I think Chelish sensibilities would approve as a direction, in this regard. Before Abadar united Himself with the Pharaoh, property could only be held by married, landowning men; to this has now been added young married men with incomes but no land, and spellcasting women have been made eligible for that status as well. It is a great change to Osirion, and now they will want to wait and see what comes of it."
"Fairness does impel me to say, that did you ask this question of a priest of Abadar born and raised in Osirion, they might say less that they were trying to move in a Chelish-approved direction, and more that they are striving to build the institutions Abadar asks of them, institutions whose participants end up in Axis, whether that was best done through women having more rights or less. But that's involved slow moves in a Chelish direction, in that regard, not away from it."
"I'd call that an unfair representation. Matters are more politically complicated than they represented to you. Osirion is not Absalom, the people there are extremely skeptical of the equilibrium as it holds in Absalom or say Cheliax - if I've correctly identified your representative as hailing from there - with high abortion, high infanticide, high infidelity, legal divorce, and women's rights. Most Osirani are, as a cultural matter, deeply skeptical that you can just take the women's rights and legal divorce part, and not get the rest of the Avistani equilibrium."
"Mortal life only lasts a few decades. To the extent they worry about the inherent badness of oppressing women, they think that's outweighed by the benefit of making sure that people end up in Axis rather than the Maelstrom - which is not a plane you can with any reliability leave if you did not wish to arrive."
"The reign of Abadar is not so old, and the current administration has been slowly shifting in a direction I think Chelish sensibilities would approve as a direction, in this regard. Before Abadar united Himself with the Pharaoh, property could only be held by married, landowning men; to this has now been added young married men with incomes but no land, and spellcasting women have been made eligible for that status as well. It is a great change to Osirion, and now they will want to wait and see what comes of it."
"Fairness does impel me to say, that did you ask this question of a priest of Abadar born and raised in Osirion, they might say less that they were trying to move in a Chelish-approved direction, and more that they are striving to build the institutions Abadar asks of them, institutions whose participants end up in Axis, whether that was best done through women having more rights or less. But that's involved slow moves in a Chelish direction, in that regard, not away from it."
"I'd call that an unfair representation. Matters are more politically complicated than they represented to you. Osirion is not Absalom, the people there are extremely skeptical of the equilibrium as it holds in Absalom or say Cheliax - if I've correctly identified your representative as hailing from there - with high abortion, high infanticide, high infidelity, legal divorce, and women's rights. Most Osirians are deeply skeptical that you can just take the women's rights and legal divorce part, and not get the rest of the Avistani equilibrium."
"Mortal life only lasts a few decades. To the extent Osirians worry about the inherent badness of oppressing women, they think that's outweighed by the benefit of making sure that people end up in Axis rather than the Maelstrom - which is not a plane you can with any reliability leave if you did not wish to arrive."
"The reign of Abadar is not so old, and the current administration has been slowly shifting in a direction I think Chelish sensibilities would approve as a direction, in this regard. Before Abadar united Himself with the Pharaoh, property could only be held by married, landowning men; to this has now been added young married men with incomes but no land, and spellcasting women have been made eligible for that status as well. It is a great change to Osirion, and now they will want to wait and see what comes of it."
"Fairness does impel me to say, that did you ask this question of a priest of Abadar born and raised in Osirion, they might say less that they were trying to move in a Chelish-approved direction, and more that they are striving to build the institutions Abadar asks of them, institutions whose participants end up in Axis, whether that was best done through women having more rights or less. But that's involved slow moves in a Chelish direction, in that regard, not away from it."