"I think we can still make that work. So - Evil, as Keltham conceptualizes it, is probably less coercive than Good, or at least more - we dangle actual carrots in front of people instead of just telling them that it's necessary for the good of all society? But alter-Cheliax has a bunch of legacy systems that don't run on carrots, left over from when we were Lawful Neutral, and therefore felt that it was more often necessary to override what people wanted to do for the good of everyone else. And we would like to remake them, especially now that Hell is making us stronger and wealthier, but we're aware that radical forms risk our stability, and, again, we don't want to end up like Galt. So we're going slow."

" - do we have a story abut why Galt and Andoran rebelled, in alter-Cheliax? Did Cheliax shatter several ways during the civil war, and House Thrune was only able to turn this corner of it to diabolism in the first place? That might make the most sense."

"I think we can still make that work. So - Evil, as Keltham conceptualizes it, is probably less coercive than Good, or at least more - we dangle actual carrots in front of people instead of just telling them that it's necessary for the good of all society? But alter-Cheliax has a bunch of legacy systems that don't run on carrots, left over from when we were Lawful Neutral, and therefore felt that it was more often necessary to override what people wanted to do for the good of everyone else. And we would like to remake them, especially now that Hell is making us stronger and wealthier, but we're aware that radical reforms risk our stability, and, again, we don't want to end up like Galt. So we're going slow."

" - do we have a story abut why Galt and Andoran rebelled, in alter-Cheliax? Did Cheliax shatter several ways during the civil war, and House Thrune was only able to turn this corner of it to diabolism in the first place? That might make the most sense."