"Gonna need more context to figure out that one because I'm not seeing how you get that as an implication of the position I thought I was expressing.  For one thing, he's obviously lying because if he had more fun the other way he just wouldn't accept the bribe?"

"The question isn't whether Zon-Kuthon is utility-flipped Dou-Bral, it's whether he's a conditional utility-flipper that will minimize your utility function unless you pay him five gold."

"And on that other thing, I'm gonna need more context to figure out that one because I'm not seeing how you get that as an implication of the position I thought I was expressing.  For one thing, he's obviously lying because if he had more fun the other way he just wouldn't accept the bribe?"

"The question isn't whether Zon-Kuthon is utility-flipped Dou-Bral, it's whether he's a conditional utility-flipper that will minimize your utility function unless you pay him five gold."

"And on that corrupt officer thing, I'm gonna need more context to figure out that one, because I'm not seeing at all how you get that as an implication of the position I thought I was expressing.  For one thing, he's obviously lying, because if he had more fun the other way he just wouldn't accept the bribe?"

"The question isn't whether Zon-Kuthon is utility-flipped Dou-Bral, it's whether he's a conditional utility-flipper that just naturally wants to minimize your utility function unless you pay him five gold."

"And on that corrupt officer thing, I'm gonna need more context to figure out that one, because I'm not seeing at all how you get that as an implication of the position I thought I was expressing.  For one thing, he's obviously lying, because if he had more fun the other way he just wouldn't accept the bribe?"

"The question isn't whether Zon-Kuthon is utilityfunction-flipped Dou-Bral, it's whether he's a conditional other-agent-utility-pessimizer that just naturally wants to minimize your utility function unless you pay him five gold."

"And on that corrupt officer thing, I'm gonna need more context to figure out that one, because I'm not seeing at all how you get that as an implication of the position I thought I was expressing.  For one thing, he's obviously lying, because if he had more fun the other way he just wouldn't accept the bribe?"

"The question isn't whether Zon-Kuthon is utility-flipped Dou-Bral, it's whether he's a conditional other-agent-utility-pessimizer that just naturally wants to minimize your utility function unless you pay him five gold."

"And on that corrupt officer thing, I'm gonna need more context to figure out that one, because I'm not seeing at all how you get that as an implication of the position I thought I was expressing.  For one thing, he's obviously lying, because if he had more fun the other way he just wouldn't accept the bribe?"