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"Breaking out of your language and finding new structures in which it is possible to frame the correct hypothesis, is legendarily the most difficult part of Science to teach; any part of it that's been reduced to a formula is no longer the difficult part of the problem.  In the case of things like manufacturing acid and improving spellsilver refinement, you'll be at a great advantage because I can tell you much of the correct language to think about those problems... until we start trying to improve those processes using dath ilani knowledge plus magic, as was never in dath ilan, and then we're back to 'pre-paradigmatic' experimentation again."

"Since 'jumping-out-of-the-system' is such a vital part of the Science problem and so difficult to reduce to formula - there is Law of it, but it doesn't help much unless you're making some really basic mistakes - it is mainly taught to dath ilani children by experience."

"For example, dath ilani children are told that the reward of passing a competence test will be theirs, if they can only guess correctly what it is that holds up the Sun in the sky, and prevents it from falling down, and guides its motion, as it circles our planet every day.  Is there some shell that holds it in place?  Invisible wires?  Is the Sun just made of very light material so that it doesn't fall?"

"So of this, it is forbidden to speak to children, until they guess it for themselves.  Only then, as their reward, are they shown where they are within the universe - where they have always lived, all their time."

"I assume everybody here was already spoiled on that one because Golarian.  But just in case, raise your hand if you already know."

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"Breaking out of your language and finding new structures in which it is possible to frame the correct hypothesis, is legendarily the most difficult part of Science to teach; any part of it that's been reduced to a formula is no longer the difficult part of the problem."

"In the case of things like manufacturing acid and improving spellsilver refinement, you'll be at a great advantage because I can tell you much of the correct language to think about those problems... until we start trying to improve those processes using dath ilani knowledge plus magic, as was never in dath ilan, and then we're back to 'pre-paradigmatic' experimentation again."

"Since 'jumping-out-of-the-system' is such a vital part of the Science problem and so difficult to reduce to formula - there is Law of it, but it doesn't help much unless you're making some really basic mistakes - it is mainly taught to dath ilani children by experience."

"For example, dath ilani children are told that the reward of passing a competence test will be theirs, if they can only guess correctly what it is that holds up the Sun in the sky, and prevents it from falling down, and guides its motion, as it circles our planet every day.  Is there some shell that holds it in place?  Invisible wires?  Is the Sun just made of very light material so that it doesn't fall?"

"Of this it is forbidden to speak to children, until they guess it for themselves.  Only then, as their reward, are they shown where they are within the universe - where they have always lived, all their time."

"I assume everybody here was already spoiled on that one because Golarian.  But just in case, raise your hand if you already know."