"That's, like, somebody who's not a Keeper but who has a lot more 'dignity' than I do, hearing news that means their brilliant 'startup' company failed? Updating and throwing away one of their most previously cherished theories and hopes? A kind of awfulness that means something, that you want to experience in its details because the details are part of reality and your pride is to know reality whatever that is, and where the unpleasantness is part of the process of you becoming a different and better person."
"I cannot say that I have ever in my life heard it suggested that anybody would want to relate to physical pain that way. It's something you'd want to experience as little as possible. The details of it are the last thing you want. If you were paying attention to it, it would be so you could do the thing where you pay a lot of attention to an emotion and question what it means and look at the perception in so much detail that you've killed the emotion, which, to be clear, is something that's generally considered a hazardous thing to do to one of your emotions."
"That's, like, somebody who's not a Keeper but who has a lot more 'dignity' than I do, hearing news that means their brilliant 'startup' company failed? Updating and throwing away one of their most previously cherished theories and hopes? A kind of awfulness that means something, that you want to experience in its details because the details are part of reality and your pride is to accept reality whatever that is, and where the unpleasantness is part of the process of you becoming a different and better person; and that is your skill and your art and your mastery, which you would execute correctly even if everything else was turning to ash around you."
"I cannot say that I have ever in my life heard it suggested that anybody would want to relate to physical pain that way. It's something you'd want to experience as little as possible. The details of it are the last thing you want. If you were paying attention to it, it would be so you could do the thing where you pay a lot of attention to an emotion and question what it means and look at the perception in so much detail that you've killed the emotion, which, to be clear, is something that's generally considered a hazardous thing to do to one of your emotions."
"That's, like, somebody who's not a Keeper but who has a lot more 'dignity' than I do, hearing news that means their brilliant 'startup' company failed? Updating and throwing away one of their most previously cherished theories and hopes? A kind of awfulness that means something, that you want to experience in its details because the details are part of reality and your pride is to accept reality whatever that is, and where the unpleasantness is part of the process of you becoming a different and better person; and to update correctly in the face of that is your skill and your art and your mastery, which you would execute correctly even if everything else was turning to ash around you."
"I cannot say that I have ever in my life heard it suggested that anybody would want to relate to physical pain that way. It's something you'd want to experience as little as possible. The details of it are the last thing you want. If you were paying attention to it, it would be so you could do the thing where you pay a lot of attention to an emotion and question what it means and look at the perception in so much detail that you've killed the emotion, which, to be clear, is something that's generally considered a hazardous thing to do to one of your emotions."
"That's, like, somebody who's not a Keeper but who has a lot more 'dignity' than I do, hearing news that... say a 'startup founder' who realizes their brilliant company is inevitably failing? Updating and throwing away one of their most previously cherished theories and hopes? A kind of awfulness that means something, that you want to experience in its details because the details are part of reality and your pride is to accept reality whatever that is, and where the unpleasantness is part of the process of you becoming a different and better person; and to update correctly in the face of that is your skill and your art and your mastery, which you would execute correctly even if everything else was turning to ash around you."
"I cannot say that I have ever in my life heard it suggested that anybody would want to relate to physical pain that way. It's something you'd want to experience as little as possible. The details of it are the last thing you want. If you were paying attention to it, it would be so you could do the thing where you pay a lot of attention to an emotion and question what it means and look at the perception in so much detail that you've killed the emotion, which, to be clear, is something that's generally considered a hazardous thing to do to one of your emotions."
"That's, like, somebody who's not a Keeper but who has a lot more 'dignity' than I do, seeing evidence that... say specifically a 'startup founder' realizing their brilliant company is inevitably failing? Updating and throwing away one of their most previously cherished theories and hopes? A kind of awfulness that means something, that you want to experience in its details because the details are part of reality and your pride is to accept reality whatever that is, and where the unpleasantness is part of the process of you becoming a different and better person; and to update correctly in the face of that is your skill and your art and your mastery, which you would execute correctly even if everything else was turning to ash around you."
"I cannot say that I have ever in my life heard it suggested that anybody would want to relate to physical pain that way. It's something you'd want to experience as little as possible. The details of it are the last thing you want. If you were paying attention to it, it would be so you could do the thing where you pay a lot of attention to an emotion and question what it means and look at the perception in so much detail that you've killed the emotion, which, to be clear, is something that's generally considered a hazardous thing to do to one of your emotions."
"That's, like, somebody who's not a Keeper but who has a lot more 'dignity' than I do, seeing evidence that... say specifically a 'startup founder' realizing their brilliant company is inevitably failing? Updating and throwing away one of their most previously cherished hopes? A kind of awfulness that means something, that you want to experience in its details because the details are part of reality and your pride is to accept reality whatever that is, and where the unpleasantness is part of the process of you becoming a different and better person; and to update correctly in the face of that is your skill and your art and your mastery, which you would execute correctly even if everything else was turning to ash around you."
"I cannot say that I have ever in my life heard it suggested that anybody would want to relate to physical pain that way. It's something you'd want to experience as little as possible. The details of it are the last thing you want. If you were paying attention to it, it would be so you could do the thing where you pay a lot of attention to an emotion and question what it means and look at the perception in so much detail that you've killed the emotion, which, to be clear, is something that's generally considered a hazardous thing to do to one of your emotions."
"That's, like, somebody who's not a Keeper but who has a lot more 'dignity' than I do, seeing evidence that... say specifically a 'startup founder' realizing their brilliant company is inevitably failing? Updating and throwing away one of their most cherished hopes? A kind of awfulness that means something, that you want to not look away from because the details are part of reality and your pride is to accept reality whatever that is, and where the unpleasantness is part of the process of you becoming a different and better person; and to update correctly in the face of that is your skill and your art and your mastery, which you would execute correctly even if everything else was turning to ash around you."
"I cannot say that I have ever in my life heard it suggested that anybody would want to relate to physical pain that way. It's something you'd want to experience as little as possible. The details of it are the last thing you want. If you were paying attention to it, it would be so you could do the thing where you pay a lot of attention to an emotion and question what it means and look at the perception in so much detail that you've killed the emotion, which, to be clear, is something that's generally considered a hazardous thing to do to one of your emotions."
