Keltham does admit that the main hole in this entire argument is sort of obviously the Keepers, who can't clearly be rebooted in the same way as Governance, because you can't just appoint random people to be able to do the sort of things that Keepers do.  At least in theory Keepers aren't allowed live weapons, except under direct Government supervision accompanied by randomized volunteers, because, like, super obvious precautions yo.  But the Keepers have talk-control, and maybe the Meta-Keepers aren't being honest about training Governance upper echelons to resist talk-control.  If that's true, it's not something you can fix by rebooting Governance.

So, yeah, if Keltham's world is run by a secret Dark Conspiracy it's sort of obviously the Keepers, and they're doing it by repeatedly talk-controlling all the new leaders from every election.

Call it 2%.

Because if they were actually doing that, they wouldn't just WARN PEOPLE that talk-control was a THING.

YES even taking into account that maybe that's exactly what they want you to think.  They still wouldn't just TELL YOU.  It's like how, if the Chelish Dark Conspiracy orchestrated the whole weird thing with Asmodia to try to scare Keltham out of ever asking to try on an artifact headband, they would actually just not tell Keltham about intelligence headbands being a thing in the first place.

In the dath ilan being run by Hypothetical Corrupted Keepers, the rest of the world wouldn't know that Law was a thing.  It would be run by a secret elite of Law-users.  Everybody else would just, like, not know any math.  Or only know about math as something you could use for engineering bridges, and not know that some kinds of math could be used to organize your thoughts better.  Or if they did have any concept of Law, they'd be introduced only to some corrupted version of decision theory which claimed that the Lawful thing to do was give in to threats and accept offers of 1 copper piece in the Ultimatum Game.

Keltham does admit that the main hole in this entire argument is sort of obviously the Keepers, who can't clearly be rebooted in the same way as Governance, because you can't just appoint random people to be able to do the sort of things that Keepers do.  At least in theory Keepers aren't allowed live weapons, except under direct Government supervision accompanied by randomized volunteers, because, like, super obvious precautions yo.  But the Keepers have talk-control, and maybe the Meta-Keepers aren't being honest about training Governance upper echelons to resist talk-control.  If that's true, it's not something you can fix by rebooting Governance.

So, yeah, if Keltham's world is run by a secret Dark Conspiracy it's sort of obviously the Keepers, and they're doing it by repeatedly talk-controlling all the new leaders from every election.

Call it 2%.

Because if they were actually doing that, they wouldn't just WARN PEOPLE that talk-control was a THING.

YES even taking into account that maybe that's exactly what they want you to think.  They still wouldn't just TELL YOU.  It's like how, if the Chelish Dark Conspiracy orchestrated the whole weird thing with Asmodia to try to scare Keltham out of ever asking to try on an artifact headband, they would actually just not tell Keltham about intelligence headbands being a thing in the first place.

In the dath ilan being run by Hypothetical Corrupted Keepers, the rest of the world wouldn't know that Law was a thing.  It would be run by a secret elite of Law-users.  Everybody else would just, like, not know any math.  Or only know about math as something you could use for engineering bridges, and not know that some kinds of math could be used to organize your thoughts better.  Or if they did have any concept of Law, they'd be introduced only to some corrupted version of decision theory which claimed that the Lawful thing to do was give in to threats and accept offers of 1 copper piece in the Ultimatum Game.

Keltham does admit that the main hole in this entire argument is sort of obviously the Keepers, who can't clearly be rebooted in the same way as Governance, because you can't just appoint random people to be able to do the sort of things that Keepers do.  At least in theory Keepers aren't allowed live weapons, except under direct Government supervision accompanied by randomized volunteers, because, like, super obvious precautions yo.  But the Keepers have talk-control, and maybe the Meta-Keepers aren't being honest about training Governance upper echelons to resist talk-control.  If that's true, it's not something you can fix by rebooting Governance.

So, yeah, if Keltham's world is run by a secret Dark Conspiracy it's sort of obviously the Keepers, and they're doing it by repeatedly talk-controlling all the new leaders from every election.

Call it 2%.

Because if they were actually doing that, they wouldn't just WARN PEOPLE that talk-control was a THING.

YES even taking into account that maybe that's exactly what they want you to think.  They still wouldn't just TELL YOU.  It's like how, if the Chelish Dark Conspiracy orchestrated the whole weird thing with Asmodia to try to scare Keltham out of ever asking to try on an artifact headband, they would actually just not tell Keltham about intelligence headbands being a thing in the first place.

In the dath ilan being run by Hypothetical Corrupted Keepers, the rest of the world wouldn't know that Law was a thing.  It would be run by a secret elite of Law-users.  Everybody else would just, like, not know any math.  Or only know about math as something you could use for engineering bridges, and not know that some kinds of math could be used to organize your thoughts better.  Or if they did have any concept of Law, they'd be introduced only to some corrupted version of decision theory which claimed that the Lawful thing to do was give in to threats and accept offers of 1 copper piece in the Ultimatum Game.  And preprogrammed with some sort of canned reply to anybody who presented them with better decision theory, about how getting higher payoffs in dilemmas was like totally not what decision theory was really about, and only selecting particular decisions a particular way was truly Lawful even if 'agents' like that systematically and predictably got lower payoffs... okay, maybe this part isn't so plausible as a consistent world.

Keltham does admit that the main hole in this entire argument is sort of obviously the Keepers, who can't clearly be rebooted in the same way as Governance, because you can't just appoint random people to be able to do the sort of things that Keepers do.  At least in theory Keepers aren't allowed live weapons, except under direct Government supervision accompanied by randomized volunteers, because, like, super obvious precautions yo.  But the Keepers have talk-control, and maybe the Meta-Keepers aren't being honest about training Governance upper echelons to resist talk-control.  If that's true, it's not something you can fix by rebooting Governance.

So, yeah, if Keltham's world is run by a secret Dark Conspiracy it's sort of obviously the Keepers, and they're doing it by repeatedly talk-controlling all the new leaders from every election.

Call it 2%.

Because if they were actually doing that, they wouldn't just WARN PEOPLE that talk-control was a THING.

YES even taking into account that maybe that's exactly what they want you to think.  They still wouldn't just TELL YOU.  It's like how, if the Chelish Dark Conspiracy orchestrated the whole weird thing with Asmodia to try to scare Keltham out of ever asking to try on an artifact headband, they would actually just not tell Keltham about intelligence headbands being a thing in the first place.

In the dath ilan being run by Hypothetical Corrupted Keepers, the rest of the world wouldn't know that Law was a thing.  It would be run by a secret elite of Law-users.  Everybody else would just, like, not know any math.  Or only know about math as something you could use for engineering bridges, and not know that some kinds of math could be used to organize your thoughts better.  Or if they did have any concept of Law, they'd be introduced only to some corrupted version of decision theory which claimed that the Lawful thing to do was give in to threats and accept offers of 1 copper piece in the Ultimatum Game.  And preprogrammed with some sort of canned reply to anybody who presented them with better decision theory, about how getting higher payoffs in dilemmas was like totally not what decision theory was really about, and only selecting particular decisions a particular way was truly Lawful even if agents like that systematically and predictably got lower payoffs... okay, maybe this part isn't so plausible as a consistent world.

Keltham does admit that the main hole in this entire argument is sort of obviously the Keepers, who can't clearly be rebooted in the same way as Governance, because you can't just appoint random people to be able to do the sort of things that Keepers do.  At least in theory Keepers aren't allowed live weapons, except under direct Government supervision accompanied by randomized volunteers, because, like, super obvious precautions yo.  But the Keepers have talk-control, and maybe the Meta-Keepers aren't being honest about training Governance upper echelons to resist talk-control.  If that's true, it's not something you can fix by rebooting Governance.

So, yeah, if Keltham's world is run by a secret Dark Conspiracy it's sort of obviously the Keepers, and they're doing it by repeatedly talk-controlling all the new leaders from every election.

Call it 2%.

Because if they were actually doing that, they wouldn't just WARN PEOPLE that talk-control was a THING.

YES even taking into account that maybe that's exactly what they want you to think.  They still wouldn't just TELL YOU.  It's like how, if the Chelish Dark Conspiracy orchestrated the whole weird thing with Asmodia to try to scare Keltham out of ever asking to try on an artifact headband, they would actually just not tell Keltham about intelligence headbands being a thing in the first place.

In the dath ilan being run by Hypothetical Corrupted Keepers, the rest of the world wouldn't know that Law was a thing.  It would be run by a secret elite of Law-users.  Everybody else would just, like, not know any math.  Or only know about math as something you could use for engineering bridges, and not know that some kinds of math could be used to organize your thoughts better.  Or if they did have any concept of Law, they'd be introduced only to some corrupted version of decision theory which claimed that the Lawful thing to do was give in to threats and accept offers of 1 copper piece in the Ultimatum Game.  And preprogrammed with some sort of canned reply to anybody who presented them with better decision theory, about how getting higher payoffs in dilemmas was like totally not what decision theory was really about, and only selecting particular decisions a particular way was truly Lawful even if agents like that systematically and predictably-in-advance got lower payoffs... okay, maybe this part isn't so plausible as a consistent world.

Keltham does admit that the main hole in this entire argument is sort of obviously the Keepers, who can't clearly be rebooted in the same way as Governance, because you can't just appoint random people to be able to do the sort of things that Keepers do.  At least in theory Keepers aren't allowed live weapons, except under direct Government supervision checked by randomized volunteers, because, like, super obvious precautions yo.  But the Keepers have talk-control, and maybe the Meta-Keepers aren't being honest about training Governance upper echelons to resist talk-control.  If that's true, it's not something you can fix by rebooting Governance.

So, yeah, if Keltham's world is run by a secret Dark Conspiracy it's sort of obviously the Keepers, and they're doing it by repeatedly talk-controlling all the new leaders from every election.

Call it 2%.

Because if they were actually doing that, they wouldn't just WARN PEOPLE that talk-control was a THING.

YES even taking into account that maybe that's exactly what they want you to think.  They still wouldn't just TELL YOU.  It's like how, if the Chelish Dark Conspiracy orchestrated the whole weird thing with Asmodia to try to scare Keltham out of ever asking to try on an artifact headband, they would actually just not tell Keltham about intelligence headbands being a thing in the first place.

In the dath ilan being run by Hypothetical Corrupted Keepers, the rest of the world wouldn't know that Law was a thing.  It would be run by a secret elite of Law-users.  Everybody else would just, like, not know any math.  Or only know about math as something you could use for engineering bridges, and not know that some kinds of math could be used to organize your thoughts better.  Or if they did have any concept of Law, they'd be introduced only to some corrupted version of decision theory which claimed that the Lawful thing to do was give in to threats and accept offers of 1 copper piece in the Ultimatum Game.  And preprogrammed with some sort of canned reply to anybody who presented them with better decision theory, about how getting higher payoffs in dilemmas was like totally not what decision theory was really about, and only selecting particular decisions a particular way was truly Lawful even if agents like that systematically and predictably-in-advance got lower payoffs... okay, maybe this part isn't so plausible as a consistent world.

Keltham does admit that the main hole in this entire argument is sort of obviously the Keepers, who can't clearly be rebooted in the same way as Governance, because you can't just appoint random people to be able to do the sort of things that Keepers do.  At least in theory Keepers aren't allowed live weapons, except under direct Government supervision checked by randomized volunteers, because, like, super obvious precautions yo.  But the Keepers have talk-control, and maybe the Meta-Keepers aren't being honest about training Governance upper echelons to resist talk-control.  If that's true, it's not something you can fix by rebooting Governance.

So, yeah, if Keltham's world is run by a secret Dark Conspiracy it's sort of obviously the Keepers, and they're doing it by repeatedly talk-controlling all the new leaders from every election.

Call it 2%.

Because if they were actually doing that, they wouldn't just WARN PEOPLE that talk-control was a THING.

YES even taking into account that maybe that's exactly what they want you to think.  They still wouldn't just TELL YOU.  It's like how, if the Chelish Dark Conspiracy orchestrated the whole weird thing with Asmodia to try to scare Keltham out of ever asking to try on an artifact headband, they would actually just not tell Keltham about intelligence headbands being a thing in the first place.

In the dath ilan being run by Hypothetical Corrupted Keepers, the rest of the world wouldn't know that Law was a thing.  It would be run by a secret elite of Law-users.  Everybody else would just, like, not know any math.  Or only know about math as something you could use for engineering bridges, and not know that some kinds of math could be used to organize your thoughts better.  Or if they did have any concept of Law, they'd be introduced only to some corrupted version of decision theory which claimed that the Lawful thing to do was give in to threats and accept offers of 1 copper piece in the Ultimatum Game and not bother to vote in elections.  And preprogrammed with some sort of canned reply to anybody who presented them with better decision theory, about how getting higher payoffs in dilemmas was like totally not what decision theory was really about, and only selecting particular decisions a particular way was truly Lawful even if agents like that systematically and predictably-in-advance got lower payoffs... okay, maybe this part isn't so plausible as a consistent world.

Keltham does admit that the main hole in this entire argument is sort of obviously the Keepers, who can't clearly be rebooted in the same way as Governance, because you can't just appoint random people to be able to do the sort of things that Keepers do.  At least in theory Keepers aren't allowed live weapons, except under direct Government supervision checked by randomized volunteers, because, like, super obvious precautions yo.  But the Keepers have talk-control, and maybe the Meta-Keepers aren't being honest about training Governance upper echelons to resist talk-control.  If that's true, it's not something you can fix by rebooting Governance.

So, yeah, if Keltham's world is run by a secret Dark Conspiracy it's sort of obviously the Keepers, and they're doing it by repeatedly talk-controlling all the new leaders who get delegated.

Call it 2%.

Because if they were actually doing that, they wouldn't just WARN PEOPLE that talk-control was a THING.

YES even taking into account that maybe that's exactly what they want you to think.  They still wouldn't just TELL YOU.  It's like how, if the Chelish Dark Conspiracy orchestrated the whole weird thing with Asmodia to try to scare Keltham out of ever asking to try on an artifact headband, they would actually just not tell Keltham about intelligence headbands being a thing in the first place.

In the dath ilan being run by Hypothetical Corrupted Keepers, the rest of the world wouldn't know that Law was a thing.  It would be run by a secret elite of Law-users.  Everybody else would just, like, not know any math.  Or only know about math as something you could use for engineering bridges, and not know that some kinds of math could be used to organize your thoughts better.  Or if they did have any concept of Law, they'd be introduced only to some corrupted version of decision theory which claimed that the Lawful thing to do was give in to threats and accept offers of 1 copper piece in the Ultimatum Game and not bother to vote in elections.  And preprogrammed with some sort of canned reply to anybody who presented them with better decision theory, about how getting higher payoffs in dilemmas was like totally not what decision theory was really about, and only selecting particular decisions a particular way was truly Lawful even if agents like that systematically and predictably-in-advance got lower payoffs... okay, maybe this part isn't so plausible as a consistent world.