"Yes."

"It's complicated.  You're unlikely to screw up whether you'd prefer eating an apple to being stabbed with a knife -"

"Er, bad example.  Good example in dath ilan, sadly enough.  Bad example here, happy happy joy joy.  I guess the classic 'cake or death' example in decision theory is also less clear, what with the local afterlives."

"We can, however, at least say that Meritxell is unlikely to get confused whether she prefers eating an apple, or being stabbed."

"As soon as things get complicated, obscured, hidden behind layers of abstraction, presented in different ways at different times, mortals start doing less well than that.  And if - people who run experiments on people to find out how they work - start trying to configure things in ways that will trip you up, it doesn't usually take them a lot of effort to do that."

"I'm not sure even a Keeper could talk anyone into preferring infinite torture over eternal happiness, but I'm not actually sure they can't, either."

"Yes."

"It's complicated.  You're unlikely to screw up whether you'd prefer eating an apple to being stabbed with a knife -"

"Er, bad example.  Good example in dath ilan, sadly enough.  Bad example here, happy happy joy joy.  I guess the classic 'cake or death' example in decision theory is also less clear, what with the local afterlives."

"We can, however, at least say that Meritxell is unlikely to get confused whether she prefers eating an apple, or being stabbed."

"As soon as things get complicated, obscured, hidden behind layers of abstraction, presented in different ways at different times, mortals start doing less well than that.  And if - people who run experiments on people to find out how they work - start trying to configure things in ways that will trip you up, it doesn't take much effort."

"I'm not sure even a Keeper could talk anyone into preferring infinite torture over eternal happiness, but I'm not actually sure they can't, either."

"Yes."

"It's complicated.  You're unlikely to screw up whether you'd prefer eating an apple to being stabbed with a knife -"

"Er, bad example.  Good example in dath ilan, sadly enough.  Bad example here, happy happy joy joy.  I guess the classic 'cake or death' example in decision theory is also less clear, what with the local afterlives."

"We can, however, at least say that Meritxell is unlikely to get confused whether she prefers eating an apple, or being stabbed."

"As soon as things get complicated, obscured, hidden behind layers of abstraction, presented in different ways at different times, mortals start doing less well than that.  And if - people who run experiments on people to find out how they work - start trying to configure things in ways that will trip you up, it doesn't take much effort."

"I'm not sure even a Keeper could argue anyone into preferring infinite torture over eternal happiness, but I'm not actually sure they can't, either."

"Yes."

"It's complicated.  You're unlikely to screw up whether you'd prefer eating an apple to being stabbed with a knife -"

"Er, bad example.  Good example in dath ilan, sadly enough.  Bad example here, happy happy joy joy.  I guess the classic 'cake or death' example in decision theory is also less clear, what with the local afterlives."

"We can, however, at least say that Meritxell is unlikely to get confused about whether she prefers eating an apple, or being stabbed."

"As soon as things get complicated, obscured, hidden behind layers of abstraction, presented in different ways at different times, mortals start doing less well than that.  And if - people who run experiments on people to find out how they work - start trying to configure things in ways that will trip you up, it doesn't take much effort."

"I'm not sure even a Keeper could argue anyone into preferring infinite torture over eternal happiness, but I'm not actually sure they can't, either."