"Deterministic and fully-visible are different concepts and I maybe shouldn't have asked about them separately.  Even if the parts I can't see are the same, and I actually am touching them differently, or those other parts are just reacting to changing things like viscosity - are there parts I can't see, in the information here?  I mean, even changes of viscosity from having been recently manipulated implies there's a current-viscosity state that isn't being shown in the illusion, are there a lot of other - facts-that-can-be-true-about-it, hidden-information," he uses the Baseline term because he just can't stand it, "state variables, that I'm not seeing?"

"Deterministic and fully-visible are different concepts and I maybe shouldn't have asked about them together.  Even if the parts I can't see are the same, and I actually am touching them differently, or those other parts are just reacting to changing things like viscosity - are there parts I can't see, in the information here?  I mean, even changes of viscosity from having been recently manipulated implies there's a current-viscosity state that isn't being shown in the illusion, are there a lot of other - facts-that-can-be-true-about-it, hidden-information," he uses the Baseline term because he just can't stand it, "state variables, that I'm not seeing?"

"Deterministic and fully-visible are different concepts and I maybe shouldn't have asked about them together.  Even if the parts I can't see are the same, and I actually am touching them differently, or those other parts are just reacting to changing things like viscosity - are there parts I can't see, in the information here?  I mean, even changes of viscosity from having been recently manipulated implies there's a current-viscosity state that isn't being shown, are there a lot of other - facts-that-can-be-true-about-it, hidden-information," he uses the Baseline term because he just can't stand it, "state variables, that I'm not seeing?"

"Deterministic and fully-visible are different concepts and I maybe shouldn't have asked about them together.  Even if the parts I can't see are the same, and I actually am touching them differently, or those other parts are just reacting to changing things like viscosity - are there parts I can't see, in the information here?  I mean, even changes of viscosity from having been recently manipulated implies there's a current-viscosity state that isn't being shown, are there a lot of other - facts-that-can-be-true-about-it, hidden-information," he uses the Baseline term because he just can't stand it, "latent variables, that I'm not seeing?"

"Deterministic and fully-visible are different concepts and I maybe shouldn't have asked about them together.  Even if the parts I can't see are the same, and I actually am touching them differently, or those other parts are just reacting to changing things like viscosity - are there parts I can't see, in the information here?  I mean, even changes of viscosity from having been recently manipulated implies there's a current-viscosity state that isn't being shown, are there a lot of other - facts-that-can-be-true-about-it, hidden-information," he uses the Baseline term because he just can't stand it, "latentvariables, that I'm not seeing?"