"Yeah, I'm getting the impression that gods are very much the big factions here and if that's true, I am starting to wonder whether trying to be a cleric is an obvious sort of thing to try if you don't want to get pushed around by clerics, or something.  How is being ex-clericed traumatic?  Is the part where nobody does that on purpose because it's so traumatic?  Or because nobody forms a successful cleric bond unless they're gonna get along great with the god?"

"Yeah, I'm getting the impression that gods are very much the big factions here, and if that's true, I am starting to wonder whether trying to be a cleric is an obvious sort of thing to try if you don't want to get pushed around by clerics supposedly on behalf of gods, or something, when in fact the clerics don't even know logical decision theory and start wars.  How is being ex-clericed traumatic?  Is the part where nobody does that on purpose because it's so traumatic?  Or because nobody forms a successful cleric bond unless they're gonna get along great with the god?"

"Yeah, I'm getting the impression that gods are very much the big factions here, and if that's true, I am starting to wonder whether trying to be a cleric is an obvious sort of thing to try if you don't want to get pushed around by clerics - supposedly on behalf of gods, maybe, but maybe in fact the clerics don't even know logical decision theory and start wars.  How is being ex-clericed traumatic?  Is the part where nobody does that on purpose because it's so traumatic?  Or because nobody forms a successful cleric bond unless they're gonna get along great with the god?"

"Yeah, I'm getting the impression that gods are very much the big factions here, and if that's true, I am starting to wonder whether becoming a cleric is an obvious sort of thing to try if you don't want to get noisily moved around by clerics - supposedly on behalf of gods, maybe, but maybe in fact the clerics don't even know logical decision theory and start wars.  How is being ex-clericed traumatic?  Is the part where nobody does that on purpose because it's so traumatic?  Or because nobody forms a successful cleric bond unless they're gonna get along great with the god?"