"They hurt.  It is possible to make people-holders that don't look like the most obvious possible chair structure somebody invented here I don't know how many centuries ago.  The way we do it requires giving up the idea that you can sell exactly the same chair to everybody and having a facility that measures people in order to make people-holders for them.  But I have real trouble imagining that there is not some way to mass-manufacture better people-holders than this.  Guest chairs don't look like this, but they also have motors and adjust themselves using software I don't have and anatomical principles I don't know... it seems like something a startup could figure out once they knew what was possible.  But your civilization has a very general problem, from my perspective, wherein it has some problem, and people don't optimize that problem away, they just live with it.  We elected not to live being tortured by our own furniture on a daily basis, and we made that not happen.  I know what the result looked and felt like, but I don't know exactly what it takes to do the same here and successfully market the result.  It's been an obstacle to a lot of possibilities I've been considering - that you maybe can't sell any unfamiliar product at a premium, when there's no Very Serious People to accept a free sample and Amazon's rating system rates everything at 4.4 stars."

"They hurt.  It is possible to make people-holders that don't look like the most obvious possible chair structure somebody invented here I don't know how many centuries ago.  The way we do it requires giving up the idea that you can sell exactly the same chair to everybody, and having a facility that measures people in order to make people-holders for them.  But I have real trouble imagining that there is not some way to mass-manufacture better people-holders than this.  Guest chairs don't look like that.  But they also have motors and adjust themselves using software I don't have and anatomical principles I don't know... it seems like something a startup could figure out once they knew what was possible.  But your civilization has a very general problem, from my perspective, wherein it has some problem, and people don't optimize that problem away, they just live with it.  We elected not to live being tortured by our own furniture on a daily basis, and we made that not happen.  I know what the result looked and felt like, but I don't know exactly what it takes to do the same here and successfully market the result.  It's been an obstacle to a lot of possibilities I've been considering - that you maybe can't sell any unfamiliar product at a premium, when there's no Very Serious People to accept a free sample and Amazon's rating system rates everything at 4.4 stars."

"They hurt.  It is possible to make people-holders that don't look like the most obvious possible chair structure somebody invented here I don't know how many centuries ago.  The way we do it requires giving up the idea that you can sell exactly the same chair to everybody, and having a facility that measures people in order to make people-holders for them.  But I have real trouble imagining that there is not some way to mass-manufacture better people-holders than this.  Guest chairs have to fit randomly sampled people and ours don't look like yours.  But they also have motors and adjust themselves using software I don't have and anatomical principles I don't know... it seems like something a startup could figure out once they knew what was possible.  But your civilization has a very general problem, from my perspective, wherein it has some problem, and people don't optimize that problem away, they just live with it.  We elected not to live being tortured by our own furniture on a daily basis, and we made that not happen.  I know what the result looked and felt like, but I don't know exactly what it takes to do the same here and successfully market the result.  It's been an obstacle to a lot of possibilities I've been considering - that you maybe can't sell any unfamiliar product at a premium, when there's no Very Serious People to accept a free sample and Amazon's rating system rates everything at 4.4 stars."