"I think it's a good idea for dath ilani frameworks and institutions to exist on Earth, modulo points like it being possible that magical conditions here directly disallow science papers to use likelihood functions or people going insane if they think about heredity the wrong way.  It will be a lot easier to figure that out, adapt them, and import them if it's Civilization doing it instead of me trying to reconstruct things from memory.  The part where your version of civilization cannot just import all of our good ideas itself, the same way that dath ilan would just directly copy all your good ideas and pay you patent-gratuities on them, is something that - we're not just going to leave you like this.  It's not in us to do that."

"I think it's a good idea for dath ilani frameworks and institutions to exist on Earth, modulo points like it being possible that magical conditions here directly disallow science papers to use likelihood functions or people going insane if they think about heredity the wrong way.  It will be a lot easier to figure that out, adapt frameworks, and import them, if it's Civilization doing it instead of me trying to reconstruct things from memory.  The part where your version of civilization cannot just import all of our good ideas itself, the same way that dath ilan would just directly copy all your good ideas and pay you patent-gratuities on them, is something that - we're not just going to leave you like this.  It's not in us to do that."