a dath ilani matchmaker in King Randale's court

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Content	Thellim out-of-equilibrium Iarwain :I do not. She... could have picked up some of Vanyel's trauma through the bond afterwards, even though she wasn't bonded to him when it happened? It sounds more like a wild vaguely-plausible-sounding guess than something that's actually true. But she's basically functioning and my own guess says we're supposed to leave her functioning while we see if we can do anything for Vanyel. If we can help Vanyel, sometime later we can go back and have a talk with Yfandes about risks and tradeoffs and future therapy, after Vanyel isn't in a crashed state where anything going wrong with Yfandes could make it even worse. The main thing that would contradict that strategy is if we can't do anything for Vanyel now, and have to work on him through Yfandes's side of the human-Companion bond, which I don't know is even possible. I mean, I did have one crazy thought about whether we could look at the broken ends of Vanyel and deduce how to transform Yfandes to make her more like Tylendel in those particular ways that would turn their current bond into something more like a lifebond, but that's more a discipline of 'how to have crazy thoughts in case you can turn them into saner thoughts' than my current working proposal.:
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Content	Thellim out-of-equilibrium Iarwain :I do not. She... could have picked up some of Vanyel's trauma through the bond afterwards, even though she wasn't bonded to him when it happened? It sounds more like a wild vaguely-plausible-sounding guess than something that's actually true. But she's basically functioning and my own guess says we're supposed to leave her functioning while we see if we can do anything for Vanyel. If we can help Vanyel, sometime later we can go back and have a talk with Yfandes about risks and tradeoffs and future therapy, after Vanyel isn't in a crashed state where anything going wrong with Yfandes could make it even worse. The main thing that would contradict that strategy is if we can't do anything for Vanyel directly, and have to work on him through Yfandes's side of the human-Companion bond, which I don't know is even possible. I mean, I did have one crazy thought about whether we could look at the broken ends of Vanyel and deduce how to transform Yfandes to make her more like Tylendel in those particular ways that would turn their current bond into something more like a lifebond, but that's more a discipline of 'how to have crazy thoughts in case you can turn them into saner thoughts' than my current working proposal.:

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Iarwain

:I do not. She... could have picked up some of Vanyel's trauma through the bond afterwards, even though she wasn't bonded to him when it happened? It sounds more like a wild vaguely-plausible-sounding guess than something that's actually true. But she's basically functioning and my own guess says we're supposed to leave her functioning while we see if we can do anything for Vanyel. If we can help Vanyel, sometime later we can go back and have a talk with Yfandes about risks and tradeoffs and future therapy, after Vanyel isn't in a crashed state where anything going wrong with Yfandes could make it even worse. The main thing that would contradict that strategy is if we can't do anything for Vanyel now, and have to work on him through Yfandes's side of the human-Companion bond, which I don't know is even possible. I mean, I did have one crazy thought about whether we could look at the broken ends of Vanyel and deduce how to transform Yfandes to make her more like Tylendel in those particular ways that would turn their current bond into something more like a lifebond, but that's more a discipline of 'how to have crazy thoughts in case you can turn them into saner thoughts' than my current working proposal.:

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Thellim

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Iarwain

:I do not. She... could have picked up some of Vanyel's trauma through the bond afterwards, even though she wasn't bonded to him when it happened? It sounds more like a wild vaguely-plausible-sounding guess than something that's actually true. But she's basically functioning and my own guess says we're supposed to leave her functioning while we see if we can do anything for Vanyel. If we can help Vanyel, sometime later we can go back and have a talk with Yfandes about risks and tradeoffs and future therapy, after Vanyel isn't in a crashed state where anything going wrong with Yfandes could make it even worse. The main thing that would contradict that strategy is if we can't do anything for Vanyel directly, and have to work on him through Yfandes's side of the human-Companion bond, which I don't know is even possible. I mean, I did have one crazy thought about whether we could look at the broken ends of Vanyel and deduce how to transform Yfandes to make her more like Tylendel in those particular ways that would turn their current bond into something more like a lifebond, but that's more a discipline of 'how to have crazy thoughts in case you can turn them into saner thoughts' than my current working proposal.: